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Hmmm - not sure that new aircraft contrail more because they're designed to fly higher. More data required to convince me. I don't doubt that newer types were observed generating more contrails - I know and trust one of the authors of the paper - Marc Stettler However, although technology might have a small effect, I suspect the main cause of the new aircraft flying higher is the different relative positions of the two types in their respective family plans. The paper does not identify the 2 types - I think the older aircraft is a 767-300ER and the newer one a 787-8, based on the paper's description. The following also applies for the A350-900 and A330-300 (if they are the 2 types in the paper). If one of these guesses is correct, the 767-300ER cruise altitudes should be compared with 787-10's as both represent their type's sizing variants. The 787-8 uses the same wing as the -10 with much lower weights (so it flies higher) - just as the 767-200ER does. https://lnkd.in/eCT3-tPd

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A new study by Imperial College London has found that higher flying aircraft create longer lasting contrails and thus likely more warming. However, long-haul flights, which usually operate at higher altitudes, have been excluded from the scope of the EU non-CO2 emissions monitoring mechanism, overlooking two thirds of aviation’s contrail climate impact. T&E calls upon the EU Commission to listen to the growing number of arguments underlying the need to reverse to the original full scope agreed by co-legislators. The IC study has also confirmed the link between jet fuel composition and contrail climate impact, showing SAFs, and while their production is being scaled up, jet fuels that are high quality, low-aromatic and low-sulfur, such as those created through hydrotreatment, are crucial. See our comments and the whole story in @newscientist 👇 👇 https://lnkd.in/egVtkr9k

Modern fuel-efficient jets can cause more warming than older planes

Modern fuel-efficient jets can cause more warming than older planes

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Finlay Asher

Aviation worker campaigning for a sustainable future.

4mo

I was thinking that it might also be because of this (Schumann, 2000, "Influence of propulsion efficiency on contrail formation"): "contrails are expected to form at a threshold temperature that increases with the overall efficiency of the aircraft propulsion. As a consequence, aircraft with modern engines, with higher overall efficiency, cause contrails over a larger range of cruise altitudes." https://elib.dlr.de/9281/1/AIAA-2715-2000.pdf *I'll admit that I've not read the Imperial College report to check whether this is included as a factor though.

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Alan Prichard FRAeS

Consultant: Boeing Alumni: 787/777X concept. Director at Preseli Aeronautics Ltd

4mo

I suspect temperature might have a lot to do with this. Generally speaking, the higher the colder.

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David Daggett

Professor of Practice at University of Connecticut

4mo

I believe it has to do with engine exit temperatures. Inefficient engines, with high exhaust temperatures, gives the water particle more time to evaporate before condensing onto a nuclei, leading to contrails. At least that’s what I remember from an earlier NASA report where they flew 2 airplanes side-by-side and measured the exhaust plume

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