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And I pressed him, I said, guys, I really want to know. I'm really interested in this. Finally one of my guys raises his hand, one of my superstar programmers, as you mentioned, and he says, I said, girl, what do you think about this idea? And he says blood mayhem, murder. That's that. That sounds about right. Pull me out of my office, but don't put me out in a big open room. Don't make me share a computer with another human being. And please, for God's sakes, please don't make me share my code. It's my code. And I, said Gil, we're a public company. I'm pretty sure it belongs to the shareholders. He's like, whatever, Rich. Now, so that was the first, that was the first blush, just like you'd expect, right? I mean this is a team of heroes, you know, no matter how much overtime and they were all working tons of overtime. It's amazing how used to getting how we get used to pain filled systems, right? Jim, you probably saw this in the financial industry. You're going crazy. You're coming home at night EJ's asking me how your work day went and you're like I it was a horrible. But you stay for whatever reason, right? Maybe it feels like you're needed or you're you're a hero and we like to be heroes and that sort of thing. Well, I did that again, Rich, how we're it's amazing how we're used to building failed systems. Is that what you said? I wanted to just add on, this is the thing I bang my head all the time about high performance, where this nonsense where people were keep pushing, hustle, hustle 24/7 and is what you just said. There is a period where you're not producing anything, you're putting in more bugs. But somehow we keep getting these hero, hero things. Like if you go and actually study high performance athletes, the reason that high performance is they know when to rest, they know when to recover, they know how to rejuvenate. There's a bus. Somehow, I don't know who did this in the corporate space, this 24/7 nonsense, but we have somehow flipped it. The no, you worked 24/7 and you push, push and grit and that's how you and it's it's absolutely nonsense. It doesn't work. But it it's here to stay. Everyone buys into it. You can't get people to not put. You try and tell somebody in the corporate space to go and take a rest when a huge deadline is they'll look at you like you've gone crazy. Like, why would I do that? I'm just going to go and drink four more cups of coffee and push through. And you can't tell me that the world's best athletes, no matter what sport. Don't have a pair partner in a coach, somebody who's saying. That's enough for today. Back to tomorrow or here's what I want you to do to get ready for the game, right I want you to rest. I want you to focus in your head space. I want you to. They're not saying 10 more miles on the on the track, you know I want to wear you down before you get into the game.